In this episode Ru and Michelle are joined by Vivica A. Fox and Thomas Roberts. They discuss Raekwon, touring with BOTS, Hamilton, the Oscar de la Renta exhibit, RuPaul’s DragCon, the Divas of Drag, Company, Independence Day: Resurgence, the origin of Vivica's showbiz name, how she landed the role of Independence Day, marriage, Baltimore accents, MSNBC, and a hair shrine to Ru.

This episode is sponsored by Squarespace and Wealthfront.

In this episode Ru and Michelle are joined by Debbie Harry and Chris Stein from Blondie. They discuss Ru in Nelson’s homemade video, Cate Blanchett's lace front wig from the movie Carol, Michael Keaton’s Batman, New Jersey, plowing, cars, how Debbie Harry almost got abducted by a guy who could have been Ted Bundy, New York, how Debbie & Chris work together after being lovers, Blondie songs in movies, Call Me, Chuck Lorre writing French Kissing, and Mary Lambert.

This episode is sponsored by Squarespace and Casper.